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Vanhoozer on Van Til and Barth (lots of names)

I should really be studying right now, but I couldn’t resist posting this quote. I have sometimes wondered, after hearing Van Tillian critiques of Barth, whether Van Til really understood Barth. Obviously, I don’t think Van Til completely misunderstood Barth (he probably understood him better than I do), but I do think that there are places, perhaps at the most fundamental level, where Van Til overlooked a few things. Here’s Vanhoozer:

Given Van Til’s well-known presuppositional apologetics, it is highly ironic that a faulty presupposition underlies, and hence undermines, his reading of Barth. Van Til reads Barth as being committed to a critical (i.e. Kantian) philosophy. Van Til seems not to have grasped the possibility that Barth may have had other, more properly theological, reasons for his dialectical approach. It has also been suggested that one reason behind Van Til’s “Barthian animus” is the apparent similarity between Barth’s theology and Reformed orthodoxy. Might it not also be because of a strong point of similarity between Barth and Van Til himsef? Many would place both thinkers together on the spectrum of contemporary theology: both were biblical fideists; both were uncompromising about their respective starting-points; both made the doctrine of the Trinity their key presupposition.
- Kevin J. Vanhoozer, “A Person of the Book? Barth on Biblical Authority and Interpretation,” in Sung Wook Chung ed. Karl Barth and Evangelical Theology: Convergences and Divergences (Grand Rapids, MI: Baker Academic, 2006),  30.

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On Inerrancy

Shane and Andrew discuss some issues about Beale’s book on inerrancy here.

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Some More Barth. . .

Going through some of Barth’s Church Dogmatics for a research paper, I’m reminded of why I like the Swiss theologian so much:

We can indeed say that God hates sin but does not cease to love the sinner. But it is only as we see God in Jesus Christ that we can really say this. (IV, 1: 406)

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News Update

After having not posted for a while I’m finding it a little difficult to get back in the loop.

That is all.

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“All this I did for thee; What wilt thou do for me?”: The Wrong Way to View Sanctification

Here’s an excellent quote from Barth on his section on sanctification. It’s not uncommon to see preachers guilting their congregants into “obedience,” and then wrongly calling the resulting work sanctification. Obedience that does not flow from faith in Jesus Christ (not an abstract ideal which can be replaced, but the concrete  Jesus Christ who is the incarnate Son of God) is neither true nor acceptable obedience before God:

. . . Far too often the matter has been conceived and represented as though His humiliation to death for our justification by Him as our Representative were His own act, but our exaltation to fellowship with God as the corresponding counter-movement, and therefore our sanctification, were left to us, to be accomplished by us. “All this I did for thee; What wilt thou do for me?” The New Testament does not speak this way. It knows nothing of a Jesus who lived and died for the forgiveness of our sins, to free us as it were retrospectively, but who now waits as though with tied arms for us to act in accordance with the freedom achieved for us. It is natural that He should be thought of in this way when it is overlooked and forgotten that He is not only the suffering Son of God but also the victorious and triumphant Son of Man. He is this, too, in our place and favour. (CD, IV. 2 p 516)

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Except as Proclamation of the Gospel . . .

“Except as the proclamation of the Gospel pointed and applied, even the most serious talk about the will and command of God can only be idle chatter, for which a Church is not needed, which can be much better done outside the Church.” (CD, II.2 p 564)

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Consistent Biblicism?

. . . In actual fact, there has never been a Biblicist who for all his grandiloquent appeal directly to Scripture against the fathers and tradition has proved himself so independent of the spirit and philosophy of his age and especially of his favourite religious ideas that in his teaching he has really allowed the Bible and the Bible alone to speak reliably by means or in spite of his anti-traditionalism. (CD, I.2 p 609)

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An Old Testament Abstracted from Christ

I think it was Seitz who said that the issue for the early church was not how to explain the Old Testament in the light of Christ, but how to understand Christ in light of the Old Testament as Scripture. It was impossible for the early church not to understand the Old Testament as being all about Christ. Barth (who is also followed by Childs here) points out that Christ is the true subject matter to which both testaments are witnesses to. Failure to see this necessarily leads to an abandonment and misunderstanding of both the Old and New Testament:

. . . A religio-historical understanding of the Old Testament in abstraction from the revelation of the risen Christ is simply an abandonment of the New Testament and of the sphere of the Church in favour of that of the Synagogue, and therefore in favour of an Old Testament which is understood apart from its true object, and content. [. . .] If Christ has risen from the dead, then the understanding of the Old Testament as a witness to Christ is not a later interpretation, but an understanding of its original and only legitimate sense. Moses and the prophets do not belong only because the New Testament undoubtedly says so, but–when the New Testament has undoubtedly said so on the basis of the resurrection of Jesus–they belong, not as representatives of an earlier religion prior to the Evangelists and apostles, but as the prophetic heralds of Jesus Christ side by side with them. Therefore the Church cannot be released from its task of expounding and applying the Old Testament witness too, and of respecting its authority as the Word of God. (I.2 p 489-90)

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Definite Marks by Which We May Know Whether the Love of God is in Us

. . . According to Kohlbrügge there are definite marks of a sorrowful kind by which the children of God can know that the love of God is in them. These are weeping, groaning, crying, sorrow and concern because in their hearts they find only perversity and hostility, only the love of sin and the world and the things which are seen, because they have no desire at all for God and His love, but a cold, sluggish, hard and stony heart, filled with all kinds of evil considerations and other sinful thoughts. Therefore the children of God must at all points humble themselves before the holiness of God. They must bow beneath His holy law. They must be crushed and broken in respect of the love of God and neighbor. They must be humbled to the very core. They must apply to themselves what the apostle Paul in the seventh chapter of Romans, especially of the sin which the regenerate find in themselves in light of God’s law. For the fact that they are overwhelmed in this way proves that the love of God is in them. (I.2 p 390-91)

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Barth on Homoousia

I’ve recently begun reading Barth’s Church Dogmatics and it’s been interesting. I haven’t been posting as frequently just because either I’m not sure exactly what Barth is saying (or the implications of what he’s saying) or because I’m too busy just trying to get through the book (it’s taking me an hour to read about 10 pages!). There’s definitely a lot of things in CD that I appreciate so far. Barth seems to have immense respect for the Reformers even if he may disagree with them (quotes a whole bunch of them: Calvin, Melancthon, Turretin, Gerhard, Chenmitz, Polanus, Wollebius, and so on. . . Luther’s quoted almost every other page!) and he also quotes from Roman Catholic theologians, Eastern Orthodox, the early Church Fathers, and a handful of his own contemporaries (obviously he makes reference to Schleiermacher and von Harnack, but I was surprised and delighted to find him quoting Bavinck). Much of what I’ve read so far seems to resonate with Luther’s  theologia crucis–if there’s anything Barth refuses to do, it is to go beyond what God has revealed to see him “in the nude” (as Luther would say).

Anyway, I probably will not be posting as often these next few months, but I’ll be posting quotations here and there of things that are interesting, helpful, odd, or all of the above.

For now, here’s Barth on the concept homoousia:

. . . The concept of homoousia is not an attempt at independent, arbitrary, so-called natural knowledge of God. It seeks to serve the knowledge of God by His revelation in faith. We have not concealed the historical and material ambiguity of this particular concept. Hence we neither can nor would hide the fact that considered in itself it serves the knowledge of God very badly. For philosophers and philosophical theologians it has always been easy game. But it may be that very little depends on its immanent soundness or unsoundness. It may be that even in its obvious frailty it was the necessary standard which necessarily had to be set up in the 4th century and which even to-day, as often before, has still to be kept aloft against the new Arians, not as the standard of a foolhardy speculative intuition of the Church, but as the standard of an unheard-of encounter which has overtaken the Church in Holy Scripture. If this is so, of what avail is anything that might be said against it? Do we not have to be aware of all these objections, and yet still acknowledge it as the dogma which the Church, having once recognized, can never let go again? For in all its folly it is more true than all the wisdom which has voiced its opposition to it. We have no reason to take any other view of it. We are under no illusion as to the fact that we do not know what we are saying when we take this term upon our lips. But still less can we be under any illusion as to the fact that all the lines of our deliberations on the deity of Christ converge at the point where we must assent to the dogma that Jesus Christ is ὁμοούσιον τῷ Πατρί, consubstantialis Patri. (CD, I.1 p 440-41)

For those who are interested in Barth a new collection of essays titled Engaging with Barth should be helpful (Michael Horton is one of the contributors). Also, van Genderen and Velema interact a lot with Barth in Concise Reformed Dogmatics from a more confessionally Reformed perspective.

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